That's a tolerable mistake when dealing with 2D shmups but, for 3D shmups, things are a bit more complicated, in my opinion. Take a building for example, but the player's ship is flying over it and his bullets, while still on same level than the ship, attack the building "somehow". Also, sometimes the 3D can trick the player to where its bullets will touch the enemy or not.
I must confess that, the 3D background is a good idea but, sometimes it can be very confusing, along with the bullet-feast on screen. So I was thinking of making a closed beta before launch, to look forward in controlling this.Ībout Ginga Force, thank you for the recomendation! For what I've seen from the videos, the weapons are very good looking, and how they are shown in the player's ship is a nice touch. Also, the shields and armor act like Tyrian: With no shields, all hits goes directly to the ship's armor.ģ) Enemy balance is a thing I'm really concerned, since I know that after some debugging, the "first level" will be extremely easy FOR ME, but not for others. The ship doesn't have at it own but, I think that the enemy bullets must have a knockback so, the player ship would be nice to control and, if hit, the player must act to compensate the inertia from the bullets.Ģ) I was thinking if I could put a meter to the shield regeneration and, while this meter is filling, the player must avoid bullets to fullfill this meter and, once it's full, you'll need energy available to fill just one block of shield. I always thought that the shields regen on Tyrian are too fast, considering that sometimes you can simply ignore the bullet coming in your direction.ġ) For the inertia. Indeed, the inertia from Tyrian sometimes causes some frustrations (haha!). There's a shop with weapons to buy and stages are divided into missions rather than a full arcade-style run. Have you checked out Ginga Force by the way? Its Story Mode might be a good example as well if you want a game with a more Tyrian-esque approach to its game design. And then you can build stuff on top of that like having many different weapons to buy and experiment with, very different stages and locales, some humor here and there, etc. If you want to make a Tyrian-style shmup that's fun to play you should focus on solid movement and shooting controls that are inherently fun (even without any in-game purchase or anything), enemy balance and stage pacing that keeps the players focused. I haven't played a lot of Tyrian aside from a bit of OpenTyrian but from what I've seen its bad parts are usually the inertia, the super generous lifebar and shields that make you a bullet sponge, the enemies themselves being bullet sponges, as well as unengaging level-design. And it doesn't have most of the bad stuff too. To follow up on the Dreadstar mention, I find that its demo does capture the good parts of the Tyrian formula with the access to individual stages, the multiple weapons to buy, the music and visuals, so it's an interesting example to follow if you you need answers to your question. "How am I? I'm functioning within normal parameters" What are the pros and cons of Tyrian to you, and what you would want to have on Tyrian? _ So, before I'm going to make it, I want to hear from you, avid shmup lovers: I remember that some levels feels like they were made "in a rush", having some enemy spawning glitches and, sometimes the game is a mess of bullets flying. And that energy bar going up and down during the game is simply beautiful, in my opinion!īut, I know that Tyrian has it flaws. I think that the most incredible game mechanic on it is how the ship generator works, balancing weapon, shields & special abilities systems, making the player needing to "control itself" to not get a powerful weapon without a powerful generator to it. R-Type, Raptor, Stargunner and Nebula Fighter) and found little things that resembles Tyrian. I've tried other games of the genre (e.g. I was thinking about doing a shmup game like "Tyrian" which, in my opinion, it is one of the best shmups ever created, not because it has only few "bullet-hell" moments (which I HATE'em!) but, because of it's progression feeling, buying new guns, new ships, going stage after stage, progressing in its story and, oh how I love the secrets and hiden levels that game has. Hi everyone! I'm Leandro, a brazilian game developer and, I have a question for you.
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